Too many trains? Look at this

[bill937ca]

An elevated storage yard may not be everyone`s ideal, but it provides lots of tracks.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LIIOsypQlSU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/LIIOsypQlSU</a>

[westfalen]

I'm getting ready to go to work so I haven't watched it all but in first minute I noticed Thomas getting overtaken by a 0 series.

[keitaro]

there is no such thing as too many trains

[disturbman]

TGV "La Poste"! 

[cteno4]

One of my most favorite shirts given to me by my best friend in grad school simply said:

"he who dies with the most toys wins"

While I was on train hiatus in grad school (except for the tomix russel plow set on my desk sans engine that I found in the student union store and who knows how it got there, maybe someone traded it for a text book!) I had many, many wind up toys RC trucks, and an inflatable 6' goji above my lab bench.

Jeff

[sid21177]

TGV "La Poste"! 

who made these in n-scale ??

[CaptOblivious]

At 0:05, is that the Chinese variant on the E2? I'm guessing it was scratch-built or kitbashed?

[disturbman]

Yes, it's a CRH livery. Looks like an home made train to me too.

[Martijn Meerts]

Some say 'too many trains', I just say 'not enough storage tracks' :)

[Lawrence]

Wonder what camera they were using for that "in cab" shot - nice

[jappomania]

TGV "La Poste"! 

who made these in n-scale ??

http://www.fmrprod.net/FMRProductions/modeles/variantes-de-tgv/
but is better if you sit down before asking price..

[disturbman]

You sure it's the same guys? The version in the video seemed much closer to the prototype (mostly on the nose detailing and the colors) than the ones featured in the link you gave.

[jappomania]

No, this one is a personal handmade La Poste and, believe me, is completely wrong.
the 2 cars in the middle are like the R1/R8, in the real train, R2 to R7 have one jacobs boogie between 2 cars (like PSE and all the other TGV, excluding cars near the loco, all the other have common boogie.
I'm not 100% sure but the Eurostar can be different because can be splitted in 2 trains for tunnel emergency)
the second La Poste livery have big La Poste logo on car R1, R3, R6 and R8, small logo on car R2-R4-R5-R7
The nose was simply painted in Yellow, in the real train the original cover with logo was removed and changed with smooth surface type before the second livery was applied, only some PSE set retain for a small period the nose cover with logo but painted in orange like the rest of the nose.

another one french guy that modify TGV PSE to La Poste and all the other types is Metienne78 (you can find he on Forum Echelle N), but FMR is the only I know that produce small series to sell it and make kitbashing at request (question was: who made these in n-scale ??)

BTW FMR product is not completely correct, the boogie suspension are wrong because retain the original PSE spring type instead the right active air suspension.
La Poste is the first TGV that adopted active suspension, after extended to all the PSE fleet (but is a different type), the only correct model produced until now is the first H0 Lima in H0 (original livery with grey stripe on locos and part of R1/R8), the second livery model was equiped with the same PSE boogie


ciao
Massimo

[westfalen]

I finally watched it all the way through. Wow.

They've got just about everything covered, I even saw a Bachmann Acela sneak past.

[Kumo]

I'd call this "high-speed-porn"! 
Too bad they run most of the rains way too fatst, they seem like they will tilt and derail at each curve... They would look even nicer at a more prototypical speed.


Did you also notice this?!



=)

[disturbman]

Yes, I had.

Same goes for Massimo, I had noticed the problem with the two sets put together. That said I still have the impression the color is nearer to the original one. It always was a bit deep not as clear as the one from FMR productions. But that can be a problem of lighting.

[jappomania]

FMR site is really poor, Francis is greath Master modeler but not a good photographer and web-designer 
about color I'm sure that FMR use "Interfer peinture" (like me) that sell all the original SNCF color code like the correct TGV orange (eg.Kato is totally wrong, Lima is perfect)
(Pantone and RAL table respected like the real train)
unfortunately the price is .. ehm.... around 400€ for 10 car set

p.s. if someone will try to kitbash the "La Poste",  just a couple of sites who you can buy decals for first and second livery.
http://www.alp2m.fr/index.php?nofrm=1&idp=29
http://www.sos18.eu/product.php?id_product=164

Ciao
Massimo

[bill937ca]

Did you also notice this?!



=)

A Maglev. Is it a toy or a model?

[bill937ca]

I'd call this "high-speed-porn"! 
Too bad they run most of the rains way too fatst, they seem like they will tilt and derail at each curve... They would look even nicer at a more prototypical speed.

Most of the trains are high speed trains being run for an audience of children.  I don`t think the speeds are too high for high speed trains.

[jappomania]

Did you also notice this?!



=)

A Maglev. Is it a toy or a model?

it's half of the JR-Central Pavillion special model from Nagoia Expo (made in Bandai), it's in N scale.
the other half set is the MLX 001 head car
http://magnetbahnforum.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=37560&sid=1d0fae002c22f3daeafc208ed37dbf81

ciao
Massimo

[Densha]

I hate these kind of empty layouts. I only like model trains when there are trains AND a layout.

[bill937ca]

I hate these kind of empty layouts. I only like model trains when there are trains AND a layout.

Its very common in Japan especially with on the floor layouts and I find it refreshing.  How many layouts actually get finished to magazine article standards?

[cteno4]

well this kind of setup is just a quick day or two by a bunch of guys with some track on tables in a community center. everything is temporary. many japanese modelers dont have space for their own layouts so these little temporary setups is all they get. mainly just to run some trains. next step is to make some scenery sections to pop in there and buildings, but it does take a lot to make stuff to use with a temporary setup and takes a lot of transport. also setting a large bunch of track like this takes time and by the time you are done with that you want to get to running trains!

jeff

[bill937ca]

well this kind of setup is just a quick day or two by a bunch of guys with some track on tables in a community center. everything is temporary. many japanese modelers dont have space for their own layouts so these little temporary setups is all they get. mainly just to run some trains. next step is to make some scenery sections to pop in there and buildings, but it does take a lot to make stuff to use with a temporary setup and takes a lot of transport. also setting a large bunch of track like this takes time and by the time you are done with that you want to get to running trains!

jeff

And you know when you go out the door there you are never very far away from a fantastic array of trains that most of us should be so lucky to see let alone live there!

[quinntopia]

Another reason this kind of set up is pretty cool...all the kids who got to get close to the trains...future modellers being formed!  I really wish I understood what was being said however!

[keitaro]

yeah pretty harsh modeling is however you wish to do it. if this is the best way for them to be able to run models then good for them.

[Densha]

Everyone should do as they wish, but that was just my personal opinion. And didn't people thought of T-trak or equivalents for small Japanese homes?

[Kumo]

I'd call this "high-speed-porn"! 
Too bad they run most of the rains way too fatst, they seem like they will tilt and derail at each curve... They would look even nicer at a more prototypical speed.

Most of the trains are high speed trains being run for an audience of children.  I don`t think the speeds are too high for high speed trains.

I think they are. Tomix Shinkansen can go really really fast, a lot faster than the prototypical speed. I measured a while ago that I had to put my throttle at about 2/3 of the maximum in order to simulate 280-300km/h on my Shinkansen.
They would look much much better a little bit slower.

I hate these kind of empty layouts. I only like model trains when there are trains AND a layout.

Some people (like me ) can not afford a room for the trains only unfortunately. If I had to run my trains on a layout, I'd have to stick with a shelf layout. 30cm x 70cm is a bit silly for Shinkansen! ;-)

[Densha]

I hate these kind of empty layouts. I only like model trains when there are trains AND a layout.

Some people (like me ) can not afford a room for the trains only unfortunately. If I had to run my trains on a layout, I'd have to stick with a shelf layout. 30cm x 70cm is a bit silly for Shinkansen! ;-)

Now you've got me!

[cteno4]

Everyone should do as they wish, but that was just my personal opinion. And didn't people thought of T-trak or equivalents for small Japanese homes?

actually the idea for ttrak was started in japan by a rr mag editor and lee fitzgerald (one of the founders of the ntrak standard) saw the presentation and then fleshed it out to create the ttrak standard using unitrak and then brought it to the us. there is quite a bit of ttrak in japan, a lot of it is standard spaced street car and private ror stuff. the idea was that the module should be small enough to carry with you on the tokyo subway! they do a big mix of doing some amazing hand laid street track turnouts and crossings, a lot of interesting single track runs, and some amazing buildings.

i just checked and all my japanese ttrak links are dead (i find many of the japanese modeling sites only last a year or two before going dark or moving w/o a forward). I do have a pile of pictures that i have downloaded from them if anyone wants to see them pm me and i can get you access.

tomix also makes medium sized wooden modules to do a sectional layout at mid sized layout on the floor that can be put away easily as well.

with the millions of modelers in japan im sure there is everything you can imagine, we just see a tiny sliver.

jeff

ps on a sad note it was just posted this weekend that lee is now in a memory loss facility for treatment and care. jim fitzgerald (her husband) is trying to keep things with ttrak.org going though. lee was so instrumental in creating the whole ttrak standard as well as producing some stellar module examples for folks to latch onto the idea here in the US and abroad. basically she created this aspect of the hobby for us here in the US.