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« on: January 29, 2012, 04:51:55 pm »

Is there a source for backdrops with Japanese mountain scenery?
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 05:13:37 pm »

Is there a source for backdrops with Japanese mountain scenery?

I have had tremendous difficulty getting hold of suitable backdrops. It depends how mountainous you wish to get... European Alpine scenes may be suitable, once offending structures are hidden. In my case, I wanted something more hill-like than mountain...but still high. I had a look on Google and found a suitable scene, which is in fact American. Once a couple of tell-tale buildings, such as a distinctive water tower disappeared behind a more Japanese structure, it is really not that noticeable.

It sort of fits in with this portrait of a Tomix DF50 testing out the branch line on Yamanouchi Oshika.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 05:29:40 pm »

Bill was the first to post this link, but it's shown up a few times:

http://shiagenin.michikusa.jp/haikeigazou.html

What's interesting is that some of the images (maybe all) were widened by making a mirror-image of the end and attaching it to the original (you can see a couple of buildings with odd-looking roofs if you look closely).  I think that's okay for typical backdrop use, but you may want to look closely at how those joints would line up with the layout scenery.

Also, use Flickr's advanced search to look for "Japan Mountain Panorama" with creative commons selected (otherwise you can't save the full size version).  But beware, as a number of these are only 1024 pixels wide and that's not enough for a backdrop.  I'd recommend 3000 pixels at a minimum for a four-foot (1.2m) backdrop, assuming you can enlarge them 2x with Photoshop Elements.  See my Making Backdrops page for some comments on resizing.  I used Perfect Resize (US$100) on my latest backdrop to enlarge it more than 2x, but working with an image that limited isn't going to get you the best results (you might be happy with a 1024-pixel image enlarged 6x, but probably not).

Ideally, from a 4' viewing distance, you need 150 pixels-per-inch (60 pixels-per-cm) for "photographic" quality (that's after any enlarging).  You can get by with less since the backdrop isn't what people are mainly looking at, but it's going to get problematic fairly quickly.

Panoramas usually don't contain the EXIF metadata that says what camera was used.  If you can find out, images from a DSLR are going to be better sources than those from a point-and-shoot or camera-equipped phone (due to lens quality, mainly).

Either way, cut out some small sections and print them at full size on an inkjet or photo printer as tests before paying for a full-size print.  I did this with 4x6 inch (100 x 150 mm) prints on my latest project, and what you see on paper at arms-length is very different from what you seen in pixels on a screen.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 06:06:48 pm »

Thanks for the credit Ken!
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 07:31:09 pm »

also passing them thru some rezup software can really work wonders. these do fancy interpolation of the data there to fill in the picture better when you bump the resolution up for a larger backdrop. these can be pricy for the big ones, but i think a few inexpensive ones have come out of late, it been on my list to research into them some more. a friend of mine who is a large format photographer taught a short course with a company that does blowups and she was blow away at what they could do with their (very expensive) software, but the more inexpensive one at the time (this was a few years back) were under $100 and getting cheaper. might snoop around your local jr college to see if anyone has this and if you can get onto a system to play. some print shops will also do this for hire or like fedex/kinkos here you can rent time on their systems and they may have this software there as they do large banner printing.

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 04:43:37 pm »

Here`s a couple of  scenes suitable for a backdrop.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cuzfou1LU_M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Cuzfou1LU_M</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/To9bbWlBH9Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/To9bbWlBH9Q</a>
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