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« on: January 07, 2012, 09:07:29 pm »

never saw this before! ever wonder what is behind a series zero nose cone? its a coupler that can be winched down and inserted into the lower chassis for coupling! nice video ISO8, thanks!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lj2EaIf9TqE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Lj2EaIf9TqE</a>

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 10:42:08 pm »

That is a surprise.....I wonder if there are any photos of it being used in service?
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 10:56:45 pm »

Its probably used for internal shop movements which would be a pantograph free zone.  Or the even of a complete failure on the mainliine (which I think never happened).
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 12:12:42 am »

My guess is that it's purely to clear failed trains from the mainline. I'm certain it would not have been used in regular service, it doesn't look like something shop personnel would do unless they had to either, they'd be more likely to push or pull it from the other end than undo all those bolts. I knew the nose cone concealed a coupler and I even crawled inside the nose of the unit at the Ome Railway park to have a look but all the equipment had been removed. The built in block and tackle is interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 03:14:49 am »

the 200's have them as well well some did for Yamagata Shinkansen Tsubasa and Akita Shinkansen Komachi Mini-shinkansen sets.

there all long gone.

the 0 series never from what i know used it as a set.

here you can find a link for the jp wiki down the bottom you can see the old test car rotting :( but it has the cone open for towing.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E5%B9%B9%E7%B7%9A0%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 03:25:45 am »

never seen it like in the end of this clip before though
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/yMPcvznftb4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/yMPcvznftb4</a>!

a rather sad video :(

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs13OJZANkg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs13OJZANkg</a>
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 11:43:32 am »

never saw this before! ever wonder what is behind a series zero nose cone? its a coupler that can be winched down and inserted into the lower chassis for coupling! nice video ISO8, thanks!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lj2EaIf9TqE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Lj2EaIf9TqE</a>

cheers

jeff

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 11:44:51 am »

never seen it like in the end of this clip before though
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/yMPcvznftb4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/yMPcvznftb4</a>!

a rather sad video :(

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs13OJZANkg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs13OJZANkg</a>

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2012, 12:25:09 pm »

Quote from: keitaro
the 200's have them as well well some did for Yamagata Shinkansen Tsubasa and Akita Shinkansen Komachi Mini-shinkansen sets.

Only the K sub-sets had (have for the remaining 10) those retractable nose couplers, and only on one car (Type 222, Morioka side), the earlier E ,F and H formations didn't have them, and neither did the G formations (though, as they consisted mainly of cars from E formations, thats no suprise). In fact none of the 200-0/1000/1500/2000 sub-types where build with anything other then the emergency coupler as seen in the clip. The K formations only got them for (as you already pointed at) combined services with the then new 400系, which was the entire reason behind forming the K sets in 1990~1992 in the first place.

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the 0 series never from what i know used it as a set.

Only JR east has ever (and still does) ran coupled Shinkansen sets in regular service. The 0系 nose coupler was never intended for regular service, it's for emergencies like some members already hinted at, it seems far too cumbersome a process to extend the coupler to ever be used this way in service, on top of that it only seems to be a mechanical coupler with Air hoses, no electrical conection as far as I can see.
At the time the 0系 where build the shortest 0系 formations where 12 cars, only after the breakup of JNR where shorter 6 and 4 car formations formed (with the exeption of set R0 which was still formed in 1986, at the end of the 0系2000番台 production (R0 was a full 0系0番台 formation though)). As the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen stations where build for max 16 car formations, coupled sets where never an option, nor practical considering the linear operations of the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen (straight line, no branches) as oposed to the eastern Shinkansen.

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 03:53:10 pm »

It's nice to see the video, but this should be in no way a surprise to think when the 0-kei were designed that there were not provisions made for a rescue train or work train to couple to a disabled shinkansen, or even a way to move a train-set around within the service yard.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 07:08:38 pm »

It's nice to see the video, but this should be in no way a surprise to think when the 0-kei were designed that there were not provisions made for a rescue train or work train to couple to a disabled shinkansen, or even a way to move a train-set around within the service yard.

yeah i just always assumed the coupler was something the rescue train brought and slipped into a panel like that, was cool to see it hidden in the nose cone and the block and tackle to drop it into place!

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 06:53:02 am »

Hi all, Thank you for watching my vid!
Surely The nose coupler of 0 series was for pulling of emergency.
but that had been used on "West Hikari"  service in Sanyo Shinkansen actually.

According to wikipedia(written in Japanese edition only),
Fleet No. R51 and R23, 22-3901 and 21-7001 are modified the coupler more stiffly
and used in busy days.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E5%B9%B9%E7%B7%9A0%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A

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My guess is that it's purely to clear failed trains from the mainline. I'm certain it would not have been used in regular service,
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