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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2011, 12:15:50 am »

Well, hang in there. The exchange rate sucks, but getting your eyesight back is a great thing, even if another procedure is required. And I can tell you from experence that taking time to get deeply into stuff you enjoy is a good antidote to depression.

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« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2011, 01:36:40 pm »

Brief update: added an additional siding and switch by reshaping the line around Niihama Station so it more closely follows the platform - gives a place for my D10 shunter to wait in. Also added more containers to the depot along with shunting staff which HS provided along with additional tanks for my RedBear to pull along and a stock of tree kits to spend time on. Niihama has also gained some school children in winter uniform to fit in with the layout being at cherry blossom time plus got some people in kimono/yukata to add.

Had a problem with my Kato D51 stopping for no obvious reason although lights still worked - traced it to poor contacts to the motor possibly some caused by damp or a bit of fretting corrossion.

Got a business trip to Japan next week - going to Mishima (via Shinkansen) then Iida (via Iida line) with a spare day on the way back to hopefully be gainfully employed photographing trains around the Osaka area. May also fit in a quick visit to the Osaka Kato shop. Hopefully no earthquake as last time or getting stranded in Dubai by a volcano cloud as on the trip before. 
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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2011, 02:23:04 pm »

I really like the look of that station.  It avoids the linear appearance of so many stations (all of mine) with the curve at one end, and the extra tracks help give it a busy look.

Hopefully no earthquake as last time or getting stranded in Dubai by a volcano cloud as on the trip before. 

You do seem to pick your travel times badly. If there's a plague of locusts, we'll know who to blame. 
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2011, 03:15:06 pm »

Great layout and I agree with Ken, your station looks pretty neat with this curve. I'd love to see a complete track plan.

And I never went to Osaka's Kato shop but I'm pretty sure DenDen Town carry better hobby shops than this one to visit. Already Popondetta there is quite cool and there is more shops than that.
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« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2011, 05:07:30 pm »

Disturbman - If I gave you the track plan you would hit on Niihama's secret - this is one of the most simple layouts out but, cunningly, just happens to look complicated and, hopefully, realistic. 

Hitting the model shop in Osaka is a triumph of timing for me as I would blow it going somewhere else - get just enough time to get back from backwoods Japan to Shin-Osaka, on the metro to Esaka, leg it to the Kato shop then back to Esaka and then back to Shin-Osaka in time to get a few freight run throughs and hopefully a limited express or two - especially loco hauled - then jump on the Haruka to KIX hopefully in time for my flight! The joys of trying to get a few hours on company business time (that is any time you are awake on a trip) to yourself in these recession hit times of min cost/max effort. 
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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2011, 01:37:08 pm »

Does anyone know the name of the JR Depot next to the Kyoto line out of Shin-Osaka and visible from the train between Kishibe and Suita stations? Been photographing locos there today.
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« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2011, 10:55:43 am »

No, I'm sure I won't get disapointed by the simpleness of Niihama. This is actually what I´m looking forward too, how to create a simple but enjoyable layout.

Too bad for you, you could have taken the Midosuji-Sen to Namba and then change to the Sennichimae-Sen, went off at Tannimachi-9-Chome and walk south for 5 minutes (or even took the Midosuji to Tennoji and then walk north for 5 to 10 minutes). The KIX treck could have been done using the Nankai Rapi:t. Well, I hope you'll find enough interesting things to buy at the Kato shop. :)
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2011, 09:34:54 pm »

Didn't get to the Kato shop as ended up spending the time photographing trains on the Kyoto-ShinOsaka line. Got some pics of locos at the Saito(?) loco shed and at Shimamoto, Kishibe & Shin-Osaka stations. Ran into two groups of "tecchan" - first group pointed out the best vantage points at Saito whilst the second were at Kishibe and told me "do not go yet, special train coming". Turned out to be a DD51 being moved down the line as part of a freight consist but no idea what makes it special - see attached, any ideas?

Got a Kato office building on order which is going to become the Niihama Station Hotel plus a replacment Kato engine shed - decided the one on Niihama is the wrong era so looks out of place. Plus also got a couple of Kato petrol tankers off ebay for a song although have to admit it was my wife's bidding technique that won them for me.

Will post new layout pics when installed. May also have a go at coming up with a track diagram....
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« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2011, 12:06:46 pm »

Growing prosperity has come to the Niihama area of Hokkaido with the opening of the "Niihama Station Hotel" and the routing of the Series 283 "Super Ozora" down the line. 

The next expected event is the redevelopment of the old Niihama engine shed into a modern JR local Depot.
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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2011, 02:40:03 pm »

I really like the retaining wall you built for the exit on the overpass! Nice work.
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« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2011, 03:20:26 pm »

I'm really impressed by all the gradual changes you have made to your layout since you started to post here. Everything is quite neat and well thought out. I've also noticed that you had "recently" added a single tunnel portal which was not here at the beginning. Where does it lead? To a hidden yard or does it link to the main oval?
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« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2011, 02:31:59 pm »

The second portal is just a hidden siding for the Super Ozora as I do not want to risk damaging it taking it on and off the track. The siding runs back alongside the main line loop but is limited by the overhang from the stairs under which the "hidden" half of the layout goes.
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« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2011, 06:13:13 pm »

Redevelopment of the old Niihama engine shed has taken place with the old steam era shed being pulled down and a modern depot erected in its place. Also gone from a single road into a dual road depot. Waiting now just for a delivery of chain link fencing to complete the boundary and the redevelopment is virtually complete. Unfortunately my Series 40 DMU appear to have stripped a gear so is going to be a "hanger queen" for a time being pending tracking down a suitable replacement. Running the D51 with a rake of pre-JR coaches gives an interesting contrast to the Super Ozora.
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« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2011, 02:44:30 am »

Hey Yakumo,

That first pic is a chart topper with those sweeping curved parallel tracks in the background above the new depot! 

Very nice!   

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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2011, 11:33:50 am »

A brief update on progress over the past few weeks. I have added a traditional farmhouse and out buildings by filling in one side of the largest paddy field which has improved proportions and, by being at a lower level, given more contour to the area. Also added a traditional cemetery which adds to the Japanese character of Niihama. A visit to the N Gauge International Show at the Warwickshire Exhibition Centre produced the usual wallet emptying in return for various items such as trees, cars, people, containers, wagons, etc. that, again, just seem to dissappear into the layout.    This seems to be a trait of N gauge that lots of literally small additions do not individually stand out but gradually improve the overall ambience by stealth. No japanese layouts at the exhibition this year but several trade standards were stocking usefull items especially Modellbahn Union who had come over from Germany with a stand virtually dedicated to Japanese items.

I have given up trying to create a track diagram as previously requested so hope the attached "cut & shut" panorama gives an idea of what the visible area of Niihama looks like as a whole.
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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2011, 03:07:14 pm »

Wow. The overview photo really brings the complexity of the area around the station out.  There's a lot going on in a small area, but it all makes sense. I really like it.
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« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2011, 02:42:35 pm »

Got a business trip to AsiaPacific region later this month but unfortunately to China rather than Japan as previously.  

However I will get some time in Hong Kong so does anyone know of any shops - say around the Nathan Road - that sell Japanese N gauge?

Having been away on a business trip to Poland, not a great deal has changed on Niihama apart from one of the rice fields being changed over to green houses.

Has anyone come across any banners that would fit in with a japanese market garden business as I think this farmer needs to advertise his produce?  
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« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2011, 02:48:12 pm »

where did you get the greenhouses? Very nice!
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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2011, 03:54:25 pm »


That's a great little farm...gives me some ideas.
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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2011, 04:24:35 pm »

Superb work. Very impressed. Do you have an overall track plan you could share?
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« Reply #70 on: November 11, 2011, 07:39:59 pm »

Yeah, seconded on the greenhouses.
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« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2011, 07:57:31 pm »

they are the tomytec set

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10119015

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« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2011, 05:29:11 pm »

Yes - Tomytec greenhouses but I do not use the bases that come with any of the Tomytec kits as I set them directly into the layout. When I first built Niihama, I covered the entire baseboard with a plaster like material "polyfilla" to set the ground levels. For any new buildings I then excavate into the polyfilla and edge the excavation with thin balsa strips. This way you do not get the building unrealistically "floating" above the ground surface but it can be still be easily lifted out for cleaning or adding detail. I also used fine ground stone to give the impression of a gravel floor inside the greenhouses whilst using the "plants" that came with the kit.
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« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2011, 05:25:06 pm »

Yes - Tomytec greenhouses but I do not use the bases that come with any of the Tomytec kits as I set them directly into the layout. When I first built Niihama, I covered the entire baseboard with a plaster like material "polyfilla" to set the ground levels. For any new buildings I then excavate into the polyfilla and edge the excavation with thin balsa strips. This way you do not get the building unrealistically "floating" above the ground surface but it can be still be easily lifted out for cleaning or adding detail. I also used fine ground stone to give the impression of a gravel floor inside the greenhouses whilst using the "plants" that came with the kit.

That's actually a pretty swank idea.

I assume polyfilla is roughly equivalent to the lightweight drywall compound sold here...
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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2011, 05:37:18 pm »

Mudkip   here you go http://www.polycell.co.uk/web/documents/pdf/polycell_product_guide.pdf
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« Reply #75 on: November 15, 2011, 10:34:20 pm »

Having been inspired by one of Westfalen's latest scenic pictures [see Re: Japanese Vacation No.9 (week 2) for the original], Niihama's local temple has just gained a water pump that a weary pilgrim is visiting to slack his thirst.
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2011, 11:16:45 pm »

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« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2011, 02:28:57 pm »

Back from my trip to China (Zhuhai) via Hong Kong. Had some time at the end to try and track down any train shops in HK but only managed to find and get to the "Concorde Hobby Shop" in Kowloon. Not a lot of JR N gauge in stock but managed to get two sets of people plus 3 coaches and a couple of JR railway magazines plus some containers. Very helpfull staff and they suggested calling first next time to see what they can get ready.

The coaches I bought were three different Tomix from the "Hokutosei" blue train which fits in with Niihama being set in Hokkaido.

Also by luck, when I got back home, managed to get a cheap, new, matching DD51 off ebay to go with them having spotted it with just 20 minutes to go on the auction! 

Whilst waiting for the "Hokutosei" blue DD51 to turn up in the post, here is the train running with my red DD51. I want to track down the rest of the coaches that make up the  "Hokutosei" set - does anyone have a list (Tomix or Kato) of the coaches made (new releases or old ones that may be available second hand) and also what is the actual order they run in plus which end is closest to the loco?
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« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2011, 03:45:37 pm »

I have a short write-up about the train on my site, mostly based on info from the Japanese Wikipedia page from about a year ago and the recent Kato model.  I won't claim it's definitive, but it's a start if you don't have other info.

There have been diferent consists over the years.  The current (c. 2008) one appears to be a mix of six JR Hokkaido cars and six JR East cars:

4B private persons simple sleeper “B compartments”
2B sleeper private persons “Duet”
2B sleeper private persons “Duet”
2B sleeper private persons “Duet”
1B-person sleeper cell “Solo”
1B-person sleeper cell “Solo”
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Dining Car
Private two-person bed “Twin Delux”
Bed for 1 private-person “Royal”
1B-person sleeper cell “Solo”
Bed for 1 private-person “Royal”
2B sleeper private persons “Duet”
Open bed B
Power/Baggage Car

The train isn't turned, so the locomotive it connected to the power car in one direction, and to the sleeper in the other, or so I think. However, every photo I've found has the locomotive attached at the power car end.

Wikipedia has some photos of the train.
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« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2011, 10:48:03 pm »


The train isn't turned, so the locomotive it connected to the power car in one direction, and to the sleeper in the other, or so I think. However, every photo I've found has the locomotive attached at the power car end.

Easily explained. The change loco change at Hakodate happens while the train is making it's passenger stop in the dead end Hakodate station so the DD51's are attached to the opposite end of the train. The departures from both Ueno and Sapporo are in the evening so any photos of the train enroute are usually of the arriving train in the morning, ie; southbound into Ueno and northbound into Sapporo therefore the power car always appears on the front of the train.
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« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2012, 01:41:40 pm »

A short update of progress with Niihama to catch up on not having posted this year. 

Generally I have been maturing the layout by adding extra details here and there, expanding the container yard, more cars, trucks and people, plus LED lighting inside the tunnels whilst increasing my rolling stock with a few Hokkaido applicable items - mainly freight wagons and "blue" coaches but also an extra JR red DD51 plus now an early DD54.

I keep all my locos on the track - all wagons & coaches not in use are in a wall mounted display cabinent (with varnished dark red edging to match Japanese style lacquer work) - so to avoid overcrowding I have added a "museum display" to the side of Niihama Station for the DD54 - mimicing the real, remaining DD54 kept at the Modern Transportation Museum in Osaka. Also gives better balance to that side of the station as if there was once a track running down that side which was taken away with the building of the main road (Niihama by-pass?).

Despite being now of an age considered in the west as being "past it / unemployable", I am in the process of changing jobs by choice so future business trips will now be to India rather than Japan or China. To get over this I am going on holiday to the Osaka area next month with my trusty JR Railpass at the ready. 

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« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2012, 04:59:40 pm »

Very nice use of details. And the "museum display" is a nice touch.
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