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« on: August 12, 2009, 10:48:09 pm »

Here is an interesting photograph of a Keikyu (Keihin Kyuko) class 2100 EMU adjacent to a Keisei class 3700 EMU. Anyone know where this was taken? I know that some Keisei services run through to Haneda airport via the Asakusa subway line and the Keikyu line (ref: http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetudou/keisei_us/html/o_express.html), so I presume this is taken somewhere around Shinagawa? Does Keikyu run north on the Keisei lines anywhere? (I'm looking for an excuse to pick up some Keikyu rolling stock, you see…)

http://photozou.jp/photo/show/124197/10426825
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2009, 12:45:07 am »

Keisei Takasago  perhaps.

"Keisei-Takasago is junction for 3 lines and extend to 6 lines. You can get over 19 types EMU."

http://tekkenweb.sakura.ne.jp/tokyorail/trrailfan/trfps7.html

Keikyu goes fairly close to Narita over Keisei trackage.  At one time some Keikyu trips went to Narita, but there is very little demand for Narita to Haneda train travel apparently.

Keisei Oshiage line Tateishi station at night with both Keisei and Keikyu trains going through the crossing.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/07z5ar52CbA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/07z5ar52CbA</a>

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2009, 03:17:34 am »

Anyone know where this was taken? I know that some Keisei services run through to Haneda airport via the Asakusa subway line and the Keikyu line (ref: http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetudou/keisei_us/html/o_express.html), so I presume this is taken somewhere around Shinagawa? Does Keikyu run north on the Keisei lines anywhere? (I'm looking for an excuse to pick up some Keikyu rolling stock, you see…)

http://photozou.jp/photo/show/124197/10426825

A location of this photograph is KEIKYU Shinagawa station.
Track No1.(For SENGAKUJI ,SUBWAY ASAKUSA Line Side)

A through train of departure from Haneda Airport drives to KEISEI SAKURA and INBA NIHON IDAI of HOKUSO Line.
A carriage of KEIKYU is run to KEISEI AOTO and TAKASAGO frequently,
but it is driven by carriage of KEISEI or HOKUSO to SAKURA and INBA NIHON IDAI.(Principle)

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2009, 03:32:45 am »

Bill, VVVF, thanks for the helpful replies! Keikyu drives EMUs all the way up to Keisei Aoto?  That's the kind of excuse I was looking for  happy3 (Aoto is first Japanese trains station I ever alighted at, BTW, and so is a candidate for a future diorama). Do you happen to know what classes of EMU that Keikyu uses to Keisei Aoto?
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 03:44:24 am »

that's Shinagawa. I got scolded by Vince becasue I posted on my website a Keikyu train as a Kesei.

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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 03:55:32 am »

that's Shinagawa. I got scolded by Vince becasue I posted on my website a Keikyu train as a Kesei.

http://www.shashinka-ichiban.com/j-trains/private/

And somehow you have a TOEI Asakusa line train labeled as a Keikyu train. Aaron! I'm ashamed for you! :P
http://www.shashinka-ichiban.com/j-trains/private/images/4.jpg
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 06:44:42 am »

Hi,CaptOblivious.

Many of carriages which are in KEISEI Line from KEIKYU are seen to TAKASAGO.
A carriage running in KEISEI Line is divided.
8 cars formation of 600, N1000, 1500 Type ONLY.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 12:33:33 pm »

Here is an interesting photograph of a Keikyu (Keihin Kyuko) class 2100 EMU adjacent to a Keisei class 3700 EMU. Anyone know where this was taken? I know that some Keisei services run through to Haneda airport via the Asakusa subway line and the Keikyu line (ref: http://www.keisei.co.jp/keisei/tetudou/keisei_us/html/o_express.html), so I presume this is taken somewhere around Shinagawa? Does Keikyu run north on the Keisei lines anywhere? (I'm looking for an excuse to pick up some Keikyu rolling stock, you see…)

http://photozou.jp/photo/show/124197/10426825

The photo shows the tracks just north of Keikyu's Shinagawa station. The 3700 train bound for Haneda Airport is coming up out of the Asakusa subway line from Sengakuji, and the 2100 is sitting in one of the 2 storage tracks that are used for turnarounds. The track that disappears to the very left of the photo is the line into the subway going towards Narita Airport. At this point you can see Keikyu, Keisei, Asakusa Subway & Hokuso Kaihatsu/Urban Development Corporation trains. Keikyu runs all the way to Narita Airport. That is what their 'Wing' service is all about (and the 2 specially painted 'Blue Sky Trains').
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2009, 01:57:51 pm »

cd - Welcome to JNS! Wow, you know a lot about this line, are you living in Japan?
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2009, 03:06:02 pm »

that's Shinagawa. I got scolded by Vince becasue I posted on my website a Keikyu train as a Kesei.

http://www.shashinka-ichiban.com/j-trains/private/

And somehow you have a TOEI Asakusa line train labeled as a Keikyu train. Aaron! I'm ashamed for you! :P
http://www.shashinka-ichiban.com/j-trains/private/images/4.jpg

I was so rushed after importing like 1200 train shots plus everything else from Japan, I hadn't really focused on the little details as so much as getting everything up.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2009, 09:44:16 pm »

There's more background on Keikyu on Keisei and the Toei Asakusa line on this Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toei_Asakusa_Line

"The Asakusa Line was the first subway line in Japan to offer through service with a private railway. Today, it has more through services to other lines than any other subway line in Tokyo. The Keihin Kyuko Electric Railway operates through trains to Misakiguchi Station on the Keikyu Main Line and Haneda Airport Station on the Keikyu Kuko Line. The Keisei Electric Railway operates through trains to Imba Nihon Idai Station on the Keisei Oshiage Line, Narita Airport Station on the Keisei Main Line, and Shibayama Chiyoda Station on the Shibayama Railway Line.

From 1998 to 2002, the Asakusa Line was used as part of a rail connection between Tokyo's two major airports, Haneda and Narita. While a few trains still run between the airports (see below), the service has greatly diminished in frequency since 2002.

Airport Special Rapid Service

Although the Airport Special Rapid Service (エアポート快特, eapoto kaitoku?) was originally planned as an airport-to-airport connection, almost all scheduled trains now serve only Haneda Airport, terminating at either Keisei Takasago, Keisei Sakura or Shibayama Chiyoda on the Keisei end. These trains pass through certain Asakusa Line stations without stopping, and only stop at special rapid service stations on the Keikyu Line and Keisei Line. The table below indicates the stations where the trains stop; no surcharge or special ticket is necessary to use these trains.

The two airports remain directly connected by a single daily train, which only runs on weekends and holidays. This train makes express stops on the Keisei Line, but makes all station stops on the Asakusa Line. The total travel time from airport to airport is 1 hour and 46 minutes.

The service's main competitor is the Tokyo Monorail, which feeds into the JR East network."

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 12:58:22 pm »

cd - Welcome to JNS! Wow, you know a lot about this line, are you living in Japan?

No - I wish  , but I have been there many times.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 04:24:31 pm »

With all the run-through operations afforded by the Toei Asakusa Line link, you can see rolling stock ranging far beyond their usual haunts.  Just a couple days ago I was at Inba Nihon Idai Station to photograph the under-construction Narita Airport link, and the train I rode to get there was a Toei Asakasa Line 5300 series- a subway type running in the backwaters of Chiba. The 5300 series also can sometimes  be seen on services to Misakiguchi on the opposite end on the Keikyu Line.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2009, 05:46:03 pm »

cd - Welcome to JNS! Wow, you know a lot about this line, are you living in Japan?

No - I wish  , but I have been there many times.

that is a weird consist for the area!!
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 12:25:30 am »

A further question: wikipedia hints that hokuso line trains run throuugh on the Keisei main line to Nippori. Is this true? Do Keikyu, TOEI, or ShinKeisei run through on the Keisei Mainline?
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2010, 01:08:53 am »

A further question: wikipedia hints that hokuso line trains run throuugh on the Keisei main line to Nippori. Is this true? Do Keikyu, TOEI, or ShinKeisei run through on the Keisei Mainline?

Checking the Hokuso schedule, I see no trains routed to the Keisei ML to Nippori.  Transfer at Aoto(or Keisei Takasago) to a Keisei train is required.  Hokuso does run trains through to the Keikyu Line on the Miura Peninsula and also the Toei Asakusa Line to Nishi Magome, during the early AM and evening hours.

Shinkeisei is pretty much a self-contained line, more of a local line or "cross-country" route than a trunk line. No run-through operations.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2010, 01:26:57 am »

What proportion of Keikyu services passing through Shinagawa terminate there?
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 04:18:23 am »

What proportion of Keikyu services passing through Shinagawa terminate there?

I don't have a paper copy of the schedule with me, but based on my observations, locals terminate at Shinagawa, as well as the commuter hour "Wing" reserved seat trains.  Other trains, including Toei, Hokuso, etc. continue on to the Toei Line.  I believe some kaitoku Keikyu trains terminate at Senkakuji, as storage/turnaround track space at Shinagawa is limited.
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