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Kato 24-850 N Scale Power Feed Control Switch

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AllenZ

Hi.

Anyone know anything about these Kato 24-850 N Scale Power Feed Control Switches. I'm trying to use them for isolated tram stop sections on my Unitram layout.  No matter what I try they're not working.  The tram stops in the station section but it doesn't move when the power control is switched to ON.

 

I even set up a test section of 2 186mm tracks and connected that to the switch.  Nothing.

 

I hope this is thought forum.  No choice for wiring.;-)

 

Thanks

Allen

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Kiha66

Notice how they have the corded plug in the back?  It should go to the transformer "track power out".   Without it there's no power for the switch to send to the track.

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katoftw

And you need to use the splitter so you can send power to both you current feeder and to the switch.

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bill937ca
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I think you are missing a 24-827 3 way extension cord which allows multiple feeds off a Kato controller power feed. To make this work you need to split the power feed and use multiple feeders which is what the 24-827 3-way splitter does.

 

From my blog:

 

On the selected track piece, I replaced the normal Unitram Unijoiners with the black 24-816 Insulated Unijoiners and added a 44-847 Tram Feeder Power Cable under the selected track piece. The feeder is plugged into a 24-850 Kato Power Feed Control Switch which clips onto the side of a Kato power controller just like a Switch Selector. When the power switch is turned OFF the car always stops at the selected location. When the power switch is turned ON the car continues on through the block or if stopped already begins running.

 

The 24-850 Kato Power Feed Control is then plugged into a Kato 24-827 3-Way Extension Cord, along with two other feeders on this particular track loop and plugged into the Kato Controller power feed.

 

https://ngaugetrams.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/simple-block-control-for-unitram/

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AllenZ

Okay Guys.  Hi.

 

In Schaumburg, IL (not far from me) there was this huge once in 3 years train show over the weekend.  I went and right inside the door was Kato.  OMG Thanks so much.

 

Talked to one of the fellows there and got an earful.  Anyway turns out the sample power control switch I brought was defective and they want me to stop into the office and bring it.  katoUSA is also not from from me.

 

Anyway (I'll try to make this short 😉  Yes I had mine snapped into the side of the power pack along with the Switch control levers.  those worked fine.  The Power feed didn't. There's t plugs on this power feed plus a short power cable.  The top one is DC and the bottom one I understand is AC .  the cable get's plugged into a 3-way with other power feeds and into the power pack. Finally it worked.  I had a temp 86mm track in the layout.  In order to install the Tram Station I needed to have the 124mm.  that one has screws to undo the strip where the platform goes.  so not 2 124's replaced a 186 and a 62mm.  Hmmmm now it doesn't work.So now I got to pull it apart and put in insulating joiners on both rails.  My test track (2 186's) didn't need the insulating joiners.  Apparently for this I needed to use the short ouinput cable attached instead of the power off the snaps. Don't know for sure until I use a good switch and get rid of this defective one. I have 1 good one and the bad one.  2 more on order.  I'll keep you updated.

Allen

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Kiha66

Glad to hear you got it worked out!  

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On 1/6/2019 at 10:15 PM, AllenZ said:

Okay Guys.  Hi.

 

In Schaumburg, IL (not far from me) there was this huge once in 3 years train show over the weekend.  I went and right inside the door was Kato.  OMG Thanks so much.

 

Talked to one of the fellows there and got an earful.  Anyway turns out the sample power control switch I brought was defective and they want me to stop into the office and bring it.  katoUSA is also not from from me.

 

Anyway (I'll try to make this short 😉  Yes I had mine snapped into the side of the power pack along with the Switch control levers.  those worked fine.  The Power feed didn't. There's t plugs on this power feed plus a short power cable.  The top one is DC and the bottom one I understand is AC .  the cable get's plugged into a 3-way with other power feeds and into the power pack. Finally it worked.  I had a temp 86mm track in the layout.  In order to install the Tram Station I needed to have the 124mm.  that one has screws to undo the strip where the platform goes.  so not 2 124's replaced a 186 and a 62mm.  Hmmmm now it doesn't work.So now I got to pull it apart and put in insulating joiners on both rails.  My test track (2 186's) didn't need the insulating joiners.  Apparently for this I needed to use the short ouinput cable attached instead of the power off the snaps. Don't know for sure until I use a good switch and get rid of this defective one. I have 1 good one and the bad one.  2 more on order.  I'll keep you updated.

Allen

 

I replied in a different thread. Everything is DC, top and bottom.

 

You should take advantage of being near to Kato USA, and being told to stop in. I would become a regular (but not a pesky) visitor...

 

Rich K.

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AllenZ

Oh I plan to Rich.  Meeting today after my dentist appointment.

 

I'll be back to report.

 

Allen

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AllenZ

Okay.  Great meeting.  They replaced my faulty 24-850 Power feed Control.  I also got instructed on the proper way to connect this.

 

I always assumed that this gets connected the same as the turnout control switches.  Nope!  The snaps to connect to the power pack is only a pass through to power the 24-840 Turnout Conrtol Switches.  This one is different.

 

See the photo which I labeled.  there's a wire coming out from the back bottom and 2 plug-ins.  go to the power pack and take off the track feed wire.  Put that wire into the bottom female on the 24-850.  the wire from the bottom of the 850 goes into the power pack then the wire from the block or isolated section (ie: Tram Stop) gets plugged into the top female.

 

Wala!  it works  

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cteno4

Nice to hear katousa was good about having you drop in to get the replacement and a how to! 

 

Jeff

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AllenZ
On 1/6/2019 at 12:52 AM, Kiha66 said:

Notice how they have the corded plug in the back?  It should go to the transformer "track power out".   Without it there's no power for the switch to send to the track.

yup!  You were right to begin with.

Allen

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