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Kato KIHA81 announced.

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Kato have announced a model of the mesmerisingly weird KIHA81 DMU for release early next year. I suppose I'll get one to run with the Kato KIHA82 series cars I already have, which are very nice models.

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10565185

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/itbig56/10565185b.jpg

 

Cheers,

 

Mark.

 

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Kamome

Cheers Mark

 

I’ve pre-ordered a 4 car Kiha 82 set and a couple of Kiha 81s. I blame you of course for your pictures of your Tomix 181. I hope to get some additional Kiro and Kiha and a KiShi coach in the following months. I’ve also been bitten by the Tomix EF71 release to perhaps have a Tsubasa formation. I hope these don’t sell through before payday.

 

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al camino

This DMU with キハ81 will make next spring quite expensive.

I am looking for this train since my interest in JNR started.

 

Where should I preorder this DMU?

At 1999?

I am afraid they will ship every item separately as the items might not be delivered in one or two shipments from KATO.

1999 says they ship more or less immediately when a preordered item is available.

 

Waiting for キハ81 and the rest of this DMU here from a German shop might fail or make it quite expensive.

 

 

 

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kvp

There is an option for monthly shipment per order. This means if you recombine your orders into one, then everything that gets released in the same month will be shipped in one package.

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al camino

So it might work with approx. three shipments 🙄

This opinion is guided by my experience of precise working of scheduling forecasts ...

I think 1999 will deliver for sure when ordered now.

I don't trust the German shops to have all items available.

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al camino

Now I am about to make reservation of キハ80 items.

 

My room available does not allow to have trains in prototypical length.

To enjoy the variety of several designs most of my train in display case are "shortys".

I try to make these consists as prototypical as possible.

Mostly leaving off some of multiple cars of identical design.

 

Are the consist suggestions from Kato or Tomix the only "valid" consists?

Did every キハ80 consist have a キシ80?

How many キハ82 (キハ82-900) could be within a consist (not leading or at the rear end)?

Cab cars with in a consist are great (in my opinion).

 

THX in advance!

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marknewton

As far as I know the consists shown by Kato and Tomix are just typical consists for a given line or period. Judging by photos and video I’ve seen, almost any combination of cars was possible within DMU consists.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark.

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Kiha66

Kato and tomix consists are just suggestions for typical train makeups.  As long as each end has a cab, JNR mostly could mix and match to fill the train.  The earlier years would have the train be more consistent while in later years more variation would be seen.  Not all services had diner cars, although usually longer services would have them.  Bonnet style cab cars would rarely be seen mid consist (but it did happen) while the through door cab cars would regularly be found mixed in mid train.  I have seen photos of up to two mid train kiha 82s, although I'm sure more could have happened.

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al camino

THX.

My suspect is that the model producing companies tend to propose longer consists.

Shortys do not have the desired effect of large turnover 🙂

Therefore any hints and thoughts off business are welcome.

Bonnet style within the consist "(but it did happen)" was an important hint to me.

I didn't dare to go for this but now ... !

I have to increase the reservation to 3* キハ81 - yeah!

 

Ehrrrr - my wallet will receive some stress next spring. Tomix announced a re-release of クモニ83 (T) and (M) 😧

Will a クモニ83 consist of 3 cars be prototypical? I've only noticed 2 of them or coupled with 115s eries.

 

 

 

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Kamome

The Kato and Tomix Kiha 80 formation suggestions tend to be the more well known expresses like the Hatsukari, Kuroshio or Tsubasa. I guess these trains have a broader range of nostalgic appeal rather than a money grabbing exercise to get people to buy long consists.

 

I must admit, I wasn’t aware that the 81s appeared mid consist on occasion so, that’s a new one on me.

 

But yeah, March/April will be a little pricey but I’ve got 2x 82s and 2x81s on order so it gives a variety of setups to get your money’s worth.

 

 

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al camino

I copy this.

For German Railroads a train like Rheingold is more prominent than for example the TEE-Shorty Bavaria (2 DB coaches, 1 SBB diner) or Merkur (only 2 DB coaches) of the late 70ies.

I'm fiddeling with Excel to find a golden route in between wishes and possibilities (size of display case and volume of wallet).

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kvp

Imho it's easier with layout constraints, but those get stretched. Originally i started out with 4 car sets, went up to 5 and 6 as a platform length limit on my stations. Now i have a few 7 car sets...

 

For kiha82's i've seen them on photos mid train with either two facing each other for sub consists or one facing the normal end of a booster set. If you have two 81 cabs and two 82 cabs with a few cabless cars, it's possible to build all variants of mid train couplings.

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