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I'm adding here a list of resources and ideas and resources suggested my members during the course of this thread and have moved the origional first post to the second post position. If you have any suggestions or ideas, please post below in the thread and I'll add them to the list.

 

 

N SCALE FURNITURE AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET

 

Chairs from Senkei (and some similar sets). 

Tricky but excellent. Review on page 3

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10295507

 

Home interior appliences from senkei

These don't look very good.  2 wardrobes, 2 old fashioned washing machines, and 4 pots that look like giant dog bowls

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10198759

 

This stuff from shapeways is perfect. Painting will be a PITA though. Pictures of the unpainted products on page 3

https://www.shapeways.com/product/2UVVB9AWV/n-scale-office-furniture

 

Another shapeways store. Some good options for living room and bedrooms.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/dcyale?section=N+Scale+Items&s=0

 

This is pretty nice. I wonder if anyone has made an n-scale n-scale layout?

https://modeltechstudios.com/nscaledetailworkshelvingloadedandfinishedset10.aspx

 

This, thanks to Quinntopia. Pricey but nice and they give you a ton of furniture. The quality is so so. See review on page 3.

http://www.luetke-modellbahn.de/Spur-N/Moebel-142/

 

Patio chairs from Faller

Ordered - will review

http://www.hobbylinc.com/faller-6-tables-24-patio-chairs-n-scale-model-railroad-building-accessory-272441?source=froogle

 

More patios stuff from Preiser

On pre-order - will review

http://www.hobbylinc.com/preiser-tables,-chairs-umbrellas-n-scale-model-railroad-building-accessory-79554?source=froogle

 

Venetian blinds

Not so sure about these. I don't think I'll get them.

http://www.goldmm.com/nscale/gmnsctyp.htm

 

Etched brass furniture

http://severnmodels.com/epages/eshop1179816.sf/sec6c4a38acce/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop1179816/Products/N19

 

FILES OF WALL PRINTS FOR N SCALE INTERIORS

 

Bingo - a pdf of store walls from Quinntopia

https://sites.google.com/site/quinntopiateststie/n-scale-wall-and-shelf-background

 

http://www.yoshinaka.jp/papercraft/lawson/lawson.pdf

 

Textures and surfaces

https://scalescenes.com/product/interior-detail/

 

 

OTHER THREADS (JNS) AND SITES OF INTEREST - TECHNIQUE/DISCUSSION

 

This thread is true gold. Many interesting techniques discussed, as well as honest discussion of 'mistakes' made along the way.

http://quinntopia.blogspot.com/2010/12/interior-modeling-part-1.html

 

Some brilliant artistry here from 'Tokyo in N Scale'

http://tokyo-in-nscale.blogspot.com/2014/12/details-lighting-inside-sake-shop.html

 

 

 

 

INSTRUCTIONS FOR HOME MADE N SCALE FURNITURE

 

 

 

OTHER THREADS AND SITES WITH INSPIRATIONAL INTERIORS

 

http://japanrailmodelers.org/photos/curtsdetails/pages/page_23.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I just put together my first Sankei kit. I chose the simplest  kit I could find on Jeff's advice to get used to learn how to work with them. I'm planning on putting LEDs in it, so I haven't glued the sections together or put the roof on. I painted the inside seams with white glue to seal them. It it looks like there's still a 'light leak' ill paint the corners (black, then white). And I'll use a pot hidden in a 'dark' room. 

 

But... The interior is very bare. Especially, the retail space which really should have some stuff going on. Part of me wants to just accept this and move.  But that part of me doesn't seem to be winning. I want to put some basic furniture, counters, wall hangings, and a few people inside.

 

I've seen a couple of tiny furniture offerings from time to time. But can anyone steer me in the direction of some good stores or resources for finding small items of furniture? Anyone know where I can find wall prints that I could print out and paste to the walls. Bookshelves, paintings, shop stuff etc. In future I may put a hand to making some furniture myself, but I don't really have the time to devote to that now.

 

Any suggestions on interiors would be very welcome.

 

 

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toc36

1.  There are stickers for building interiors.

 

2.  Woodland Scenes has an internal lighting system that may highlight your interios.

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3 minutes ago, toc36 said:

1.  There are stickers for building interiors.

 

2.  Woodland Scenes has an internal lighting system that may highlight your interios.

 

Thanks toc. I'm ok with LEDs. But the stickers sound great. Know of a source? 

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cteno4

Gavin,

 

one of the former JRM and JNS members did some great scratch building interiors for his high rises. Mostly blocky stuff but worked well. He also did a 1/150 printout of the jrm layout and made a model of it and put a tent on his plaza area on his layout (sadly the thread sees lost in the bowels of the old forum software links no longer work). 

 

There was a chap that made an n scale layout in the front windows of a hobby shop on his n scale layout. I think this is the same chap with a z scale representation of on an n scale layout or an n scale representation of a z scale layout!

 

 

More on building interiors

 

 

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bill937ca

For interior stickers several Tomix items had these.

 

4062 Seven-Eleven convenience store   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10051891

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10051891/20/5

But this is an old issue item, no longer available. HS does not show any stickers for the new items.

 

4039 Suburban store  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10014565

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10014565/40/1

 

4038 Pachinko Hall  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10013037

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10013037/40/1

 

Some Tomytec items have interiors.

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10496024/20/1

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10472924/20/3

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Found it!

 

 

And his interiors

 

 

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15 hours ago, cteno4 said:

Gavin,

 

one of the former JRM and JNS members did some great scratch building interiors for his high rises. Mostly blocky stuff but worked well. He also did a 1/150 printout of the jrm layout and made a model of it and put a tent on his plaza area on his layout (sadly the thread sees lost in the bowels of the old forum software links no longer work). 

 

There was a chap that made an n scale layout in the front windows of a hobby shop on his n scale layout. I think this is the same chap with a z scale representation of on an n scale layout or an n scale representation of a z scale layout!

 

 

 

 

This is just pure genius. Some day, I'll try to replicate this. I'll have to build up a lot of skill first.

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14 hours ago, bill937ca said:

For interior stickers several Tomix items had these.

 

4062 Seven-Eleven convenience store   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10051891

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10051891/20/5

But this is an old issue item, no longer available. HS does not show any stickers for the new items.

 

4039 Suburban store  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10014565

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10014565/40/1

 

4038 Pachinko Hall  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10013037

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10013037/40/1

 

Some Tomytec items have interiors.

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10496024/20/1

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10472924/20/3

 

Thanks, the Tomix interiors aren't great. I have the Tomix gas station which has some stickers, but I've never though it looked good. Some day I'll try to paint and decal it. Not ready yet.

 

I also have the Tomytec "sidewalk markets" that you linked. In fact I put them together loosely a few days ago. They still need LEDs. Those have spectacular interiors. If I could achieve something even half that fancy I'd be delighted.

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I'm seeing that 'wall art' for interiors is essentially the same technique as creating realistic billboards and ads - a project that I researched a while ago but haven't gotten round to. 

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Take a look at what curt did as it doesn’t take a lot to get the mind’s eye filling in a lot more of the detail than in external detailing. Unless you have a camera right up to the windows you are just going to see some hints of what’s inside and that’s perfect for sparking the mind’s eye as in real life we also usually only see some hints at the interior detail in buildings from the outside. Part of this is during the day window actually start to look a bit grayed out at more and more distance and details show8ng thru go down. So one place where just some hints of detail can go a long with with the mind’s eye.

 

experiment some.

 

jeff

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3 minutes ago, cteno4 said:

Take a look at what curt did as it doesn’t take a lot to get the mind’s eye filling in a lot more of the detail than in external detailing. Unless you have a camera right up to the windows you are just going to see some hints of what’s inside and that’s perfect for sparking the mind’s eye as in real life we also usually only see some hints at the interior detail in buildings from the outside. Part of this is during the day window actually start to look a bit grayed out at more and more distance and details show8ng thru go down. So one place where just some hints of detail can go a long with with the mind’s eye.

 

experiment some.

 

jeff

 

Thanks. I like this philosophy.

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I ordered a bunch of furniture. It's fairly expensive. I'm not sure I want to use it on my first few learning projects anyway. I had a short break today between jobs so I made a first attempt at making some furniture, for low priority buildings.

 

It's very rough. Both pieces are out of scale. It's also very hard to make two chairs that are identical by just eyeballing it. I won't use these two. But I think I'll try again. This time I'll actually design them, and take scaled approximate measurements from actual furniture. If I have any success I'll make a template and see if I can effectively replicate the item.

 

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Very very easy to make furniture.

 

Desk just a folded bit of construction paper or saw off a bit of styrene u channel. 

 

Couches and stuffed chairs can bust be small bits of fun foam glued up.

 

chairs can be made with thin wire and construction paper seat/back easily.

 

 

also there are good sankei chairs reasonably priced and I think gold metal makes nice and inexpensive scale etched brass chairs in a few forms, but I can’t see it on their website, I’ll look thru my details box. Faller has a couple of kits of chairs and tables in plastic but a bit chunky. 

 

Severn has a whole house of etched furniture

 

http://severnmodels.com/epages/eshop1179816.sf/sec6c4a38acce/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop1179816/Products/N19

 

ngineering has fancy etched metal outdoor tables and chairs

 

https://www.ngineering.com/decor.htm

 

there are a few more obscure kits out there I can dig out as well if you want. 

 

play for a few minutes with some wire, construction paper and fun foam and you will be amazed what you can do! 

 

Again since you are looking thru windows you can get away with just the major hint of the furniture to make the mind’s eye fill in all the little details.

 

jeff

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3 hours ago, bill937ca said:

More Tomytec items with interiors.

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10275812

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10275810

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10275811

 

Mostly small shops like Gyudon counter service restaurants,,  dry cleaners etc.

 

http://www.tomytec.co.jp/diocolle/lineup/tatemono/tate023.html

 

Thanks bill. Those are all very nice. They'd all look good in my future "Little Ebisu".

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1 hour ago, cteno4 said:

Very very easy to make furniture.

 

Desk just a folded bit of construction paper or saw off a bit of styrene u channel. 

 

Couches and stuffed chairs can bust be small bits of fun foam glued up.

 

chairs can be made with thin wire and construction paper seat/back easily.

 

 

The chair is masterful. I'm going to attempt it. If mine comes out half as well as yours I'd be delighted.

 

Is this the wire you used?

http://severnmodels.com/epages/eshop1179816.sf/sec6c4a38acce/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop1179816/Products/N19

 

Was it a regular needle nosed pliers you used? or some kind of mini?

 

I also like the couch and will try it too.

 

I'm collecting all the furniture resources, up top, in the second post, btw so I can find them all in one place.

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Gavin,

 

live go a wide selection of fine music wires and also the nice stainless wires from ngeneering

 

https://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm

 

but for simple stuff I use jewelry headpins. You can get pretty thin ones and they are very pliable

 

https://www.amazon.com/About-270pcs-Antique-Copper-Size30x0-7x0-7/dp/B00LEBYCUI/ref=sr_1_1?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1526969127&sr=1-1&keywords=Head+pin+30g

 

lots on ebay or jewelry finding places.

 

thes are my usual needle nose for stuff like this.

 

https://widgetsupply.com/product/xja87-100328.html

 

also have a slightly narrower but thicker pair of xurons as well.

 

cheers

 

jeff

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Today's chair is wooden and a bit more to scale.  A small step in the right direction.

 

 

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This one is constructed a bit more like a real chair. It was hard to get the legs level. I had to use some 220 grit sandpaper. I think the chair back doesn't look quite right. Either it's too tall or the back support needs to be a bit bigger. It also need a bit of light filing. That's all for now. 

 

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It's probably still a little off scale. I think I'll wait till my 'real' furniture arrives in the mail, so I can compare dimensions, before attempting any more.

 

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Just say it is from IKEA 

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I put some LEDs in the Sankei building. Amazingly there's zero light leak. The sections, aren't glued together yet. Now that I know there's no light leak, I'll add a few interior features and a couple of cheapo chinese figures.

 

I really need to buy some "warm white" LEDs before I do any more buildings. The bright white looks very harsh in the upper level. That is, if I decide it's a residential level.

 

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Looks great! Seems like the paper stock of the Sankei kits are good at light absorbing, probably even better than Tomytec's ABS plastic!

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8 hours ago, JR 500系 said:

Looks great! Seems like the paper stock of the Sankei kits are good at light absorbing, probably even better than Tomytec's ABS plastic!

 

Thanks. I'm very impressed by these kits. I'm looking forward to building some of the Studio Ghibli models!

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Nice Gavin!

 

Yeah the chipboard sankei uses is very good stuff. Lots of pigment and resin so very opaque. Multiple wall layers also helps! The rabit joints on wall corners also are self light sealing compared with butt joints in most other kits.

 

Tomytex is white abs plastic with little pigment so not very opaque. Paint layers or internal shielding are needed unless you keep the leds low and use some little light shielding on the led so most of the internal lighting is bounced lighting not direct from the uber intense led light.

 

i learned the shielding and bounce lighting when I was a kid and it was harder to reduce the voltages for individual grain of wheat incandescent bulbs (fat 5mm leds were like$2 each then — about the cost of a pack of 10 grain of wheat bulbs and I remeber the glee when the radio shack bag jumped from 1 to 5 and kept the same price). If I needed to tune one down i used some foil to cover the bulb some and make more of a desk lamp pointed at the floor from the ceiling and put some bright white cardstock on the floor and walls to bounce the light around. Got rid of the glow effect in small buildings.

 

cheers,

 

jeff

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