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There is a prototype for everything... (Worldwide Rail)

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A little thread to discuss strange, uncommon or just plain weird aspects, sales, operations or compositions that could be interesting for us modellers, because as the title says, there's always the prototype for evryting...

 

...like the one time when a popular italian DMU ended up running in Chicago leased to the Rock Island Railroad...

 

http://www.trenomania.org/fotogallery/albums/userpics/10229/FS_ALn668_920_Chicago_(101).JPG

 

(3:23)

 

 

...or when a british company needed a slightly more powerful shunter than the class 08s, and they ended up with an american SW1001...

 

https://photos.smugmug.com/Industrial/Ind-DE/i-3nG98WL/1/0162e656/L/00044b-L.jpg

 

 

 

...or when an Australian railway bought second-hand diesel locomotives from Denmark...

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/MZ_Locomotive_Blayney_NSW.jpg

 

 

 

...and when Estonia's railway bought second-hand GE C30-7s from the US to replace USSR-built M62 from about the same era...

 

http://4rail.taragany.fi/est/est_evr_c36nr1529_narvayard_31_2010_L.jpg

 

 

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Jcarlton

ICE on the Northeast Corridor.

 

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Densha

Please post Japan Rail-related links in this separate thread from now on.

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On 5/21/2018 at 9:12 PM, Jcarlton said:

ICE on the Northeast Corridor.

 

And a Swedish X2000 as well:

 

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/trains-and-locomotives/images/f/fe/Amtrak_X2000.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140425200045

from

http://trains-and-locomotives.wikia.com/wiki/File:Amtrak_X2000.jpg

 

 

 

Then there's this obscure Italian prototype double-decker single railcar:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7101/7034299895_30ecb9d25a_b.jpg

 

that somehow ended up running as a tourist train in Mauritania out of all places...

https://scalaenne.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/casaraltaautomotrice.jpg

 

https://scalaenne.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/a2ndeserto1.jpg

 

all from:

https://scalaenne.wordpress.com/2013/08/17/automotrici-casaralta-a2n/

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Suica

German ICE, French TGV Atlantique (the speed record set), Italian ETR X500, Swedish X2000 and Spanish Talgo Pendular all in one place during the first EuRailSpeed at Berlin Lichtenberg Station in 1991. The trains had to be pulled by DR BR 106 and 132, due to the different electrical systems and since large parts in and around Berlin were not electrified yet.

http://www.gerdboehmer-berlinereisenbahnarchiv.de/Bildergalerien/19910706-eurailspeed/19910706.html

http://www.gerdboehmer-berlinereisenbahnarchiv.de/Bildergalerien/19910706-eurailspeed/19910707.html

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Socimi

From very cold in Norway, to very hot in Sicily, this NSB Di3 made quite a journey...

 

https://scalaenne.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/di3-631-casteltermini.jpg

 

from

https://scalaenne.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/motrici-coco-delle-fs-parte-2-d-461/

 

Three of these have been bought second-hand by a small railway maintainance company, Globalferr, altough only two are operational and only one is actually used.

Actually these Nohabs are one of just three types of Co'Co' locomotives that ever travelled on italian tracks.

 

Italian rails saw, and still see, quite the variety of second-hand diesel locos for small "Third-sector" private railways, industrial lines and maintainance companies.

We bought locos from pretty much evrywhere: (West) Germany (V220s, V160s, V80s, V100s, 218s, V36s, Kofs...), Belgium (Class 63 diesel locos, AM54/55 EMUs), Romania (Class 060DA) and the Czech Repubblic (CD Class 753),

 

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Nohabs are pretty much immortal locos. Last summer I saw one in western Germany, pulling freight trains along the river rhine.

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Just a British DRS Class 20 side by side with a former-DDR Electric Locomotive, at Dresden Station...

 

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/50964/

 

...and at Stivavy in the Czech Repubblic...

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16145668@N03/14129293090/in/photostream/

 

...and in Hungary at Budapest Keleti station.

 

https://charlesgwoodland.smugmug.com/Trains/Did-they-Really-do-that/By-Train-to-Kosovo-Sept-1999/i-pDJvT7t

 

The 1999 "Kosovo Train For Life" was a special train carrying humanitarian aid for the people of Kosovo and surplus rolling stock for the Kosovo Railways, donated by Germany. It was hauled by three DRS Class 20 shunters, wich would stay in Kosovo for 6 months and then return to the UK.

Departing from Derby, it went trough France, Belgium, Germany, the Czech Repubblic, Hungary, Bulgaria and Macedonia.

 

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1 hour ago, Socimi said:

 Class 20 shunters

 

Not shunters, though they look a bit like a stretched version of a Class 08; actually light freight locos (with some limited passenger haulage), usually couples in pairs with the cabs at opposite ends for better visibility.

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1 hour ago, railsquid said:

Not shunters, though they look a bit like a stretched version of a Class 08; actually light freight locos (with some limited passenger haulage), usually couples in pairs with the cabs at opposite ends for better visibility.

I think this is what is called road switcher in the US. Btw. i think it's a really interesting piece of history.

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3 hours ago, railsquid said:

 

Not shunters, though they look a bit like a stretched version of a Class 08; actually light freight locos (with some limited passenger haulage), usually couples in pairs with the cabs at opposite ends for better visibility.

 

In italy we call them "Locomotive da Manovra pesante" ("Heavy-haul Shunters") as they look (and are intended to work) like a standard shunter ("Locomotiva da Manovra" such as the D245) but are almost as powerful as a mainline diesel locomotive (such as the D345).

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4 hours ago, Socimi said:

Haha, I love this! Is this still in service?

 

Germany and Switzerland actually had McDonald's retaurant cars.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johannes-j-smit/3609401442

 

 

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12 hours ago, Suica said:

Haha, I love this! Is this still in service?

 

Both yes, the coach itself is still operating and no, as it does not serves pizza anymore.

 

Following the end of the TEE era services (replaced by EuroCity trains) and the european standardization of power/lighting/heating supplies to the coaches there was a surplus of GC ("gran confort)-type luggage-generator coach.

One of these was converted into a resturant one in collaboration with the Burghy catering agency (the same one that provided lunches on TGV, Thalys, AVE and Cisalpino high-speed trains).

 

The coach was classified as 61 83 88-90 999-5 "Pizza Express", and after the acquisition of Burghy by McDonald's (before the coach was even put in service) the catering was done directly by Trenitalia. It entered service in 1997 on the Venezia-Milano interregional services, but due to the bad scheduling (arriving in Milan at 18:45, you had all the time to go home and dine at the usual italian dinner time of 19:30/19:45), the low quality of the pizza (frozen and then heated when necessary heresy), and the high prices, it had a vey low usage.

 

It was also used on some services bound for Rimini, but by 2003/2004 it was used only rarely, mostly with special or chartered trains such as school trip serivces, and by 2007 it was retired from service.

 

It was later aquired by the Fondazione FS (the Trenitalia department responsable for the preservation of historic rolling stock) and repainted into the 1980's "bandiera" express trains  liviery (wich it never carried).

As of today it's in use by Fondazione FS to provide refreshments either on historic trains or at events such as the open days at various depots or stations.

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Socimi

Leased car from switzerland to add capacity on trains for the 1972 olympics?

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ConnieCommie

I've been looking forward to this.

 

https://www.derbysulzers.com/lamco101.jpg

 

The time that British Class 08s, American road-switchers, and German/American Diesel locomotives all working for a very immoral operation in Liberia?

 

LAMCO had it, and continuing the trend of purchasing locomotives from a smorgasbord of places, the company that rebuilt it operates construction trains with a pair of Romanian LDH1250 series engines... and a bunch of ES44ACs.

 

http://www.tramz.com/cu/sc/sc22.jpg

 

In Cuba, they rebuild old interurban cars into Gas Railcars. (yes, gas. not diesel.)

 

https://www.derbysulzers.com/cuba21202ks.jpg

 

The Hershey Electric Railroad rosters a French Diesel-To-Electric conversion (seen here), vintage GE steeplecabs, a Russian TEM2 that's a copy of a US locomtotive, and 1910s Interurban cars.

 

http://www.railwaymania.com/docs/imgdb/renfe_251_011.jpg

 

An EF66? No, their cousin built for spain.

 

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/38876/DT37TEM7Asm.jpg

 

This photo's not taken in Russia- 7 TEM7 D-D heavy switchers were delivered to a grain company as payment. That failed and the engines couldn't meet FRA regulations so they were shipped back.

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Socimi
4 hours ago, ConnieCommie said:

 

This photo's not taken in Russia- 7 TEM7 D-D heavy switchers were delivered to a grain company as payment. That failed and the engines couldn't meet FRA regulations so they were shipped back.

 

Kudos! This must be one of the weirdest prototypes ever!

 

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They were shipped in exchange for Grain, seized by US customs, released but no buyers could be found due to the fact they were sitting near saltwater for years, either shipped back or cut up.

 

A Tem7 has 4000 horsepower, by the way. And it's used for shunting. Ivan need big lokomotor to shunting the Industry and get Kurrency.

 

http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=71192

 

In similar news of "Stuff that shouldn't be in NA but is", this Romanian LDH1250 shunter got sent to Washington DC as part of a demonstration. It had relatively no weight compared to the rest of Washington Terminal's roster so they sold it to a buyer who just let it sit around in PA.

 

http://www.svenska-lok.se/Fotos/MotorSJ/SJ_T43_244_2006.jpg

 

This EMD G12/T43 was designed in the USA, Made in Sweeden, bought by Canada and i believe is now sitting in a shed.

 

On another note...

 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TSHR_DD14_331.jpg

 

Taiwan's HSR purchased a DD14 from Japan and regauged it to SG instead of using one of the many SG engines out there.

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