Jump to content


Photo

Small 1950's steamer - anything currently (or recently) available?


  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1 velotrain

velotrain
  • Members
  • LocationBoston, MA

Posted 19 March 2017 - 12:49 AM

So I heard from Bergen National Laser that he's making progress on my sugar beet plant kits. It will likely be a year before I get to it, but thought I'd start to lay in some other material, beginning with an appropriate period engine - something like the one partially seen in this photo (link originally posted by Mark).

https://upload.wikim...ObihiroKojo.jpg

It must be fall - the beets are piled up to the ties on the receiving track ;-)

There is also a brief shot of a similar? engine in the video at this thread:

http://www.jnsforum....hl=+sugar +beet

shown - I presume, delivering the first load of beets on a newly constructed concrete trestle (@ 3:36). If nothing smaller is available, I guess I'll go with the Kato C12, which seems to be well regarded.

I'm also looking for a few all wood 25000 (steel ends?) or 35000 Tora wagons to carry the beets - Popondetta and Kawai made these in the past, the former as recently as November, 2014. I've asked David and Nariichi to keep a watch out, but nothing so far.
  • marknewton likes this

Charles


#2 Nick_Burman

Nick_Burman
  • Members
  • LocationLate of Sao Paulo - Brazil; now at Spilimbergo, Friuli, Italy

Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:10 AM

Charles,

 

Arumodel is your friend: http://arumo.a.la9.jp/rn0117.htm and/or http://arumo.a.la9.jp/rn0111.htm, both would look OK as mill switchers.

 

Alternatively you could lay your hands on an Arnold Hanomag 0-4-0T, as I did: http://www.jnsforum....ours/?hl=arnold Another alternative is the Tsugawa Koppel.

 

You could use a Athearn/MDC 2-6-0 or 2-8-0 to represent an ex-JGR US-built loco sold into industrial use, too.

 

 

Cheers NB


  • marknewton, velotrain and kvp like this

Je ne garde pas ma langue dans ma poche...

 

(Marc de Caso, SNCF steam locomotive designer)


#3 velotrain

velotrain
  • Members
  • LocationBoston, MA

Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

Thanks for the links Nick.

I could live with the gaps in the folded side tank etches and the spotty white metal shell, but I've always disliked visible gearing. Many older German steam models had gears that were parallel with the drivers, but I imagine this large perpendicular gear would be particularly distracting to watch.

I may consider more recent (model vs. proto) German engines though.

I'm guessing that models close to what I'm looking for were available in the past, but have fallen out of favor with the passage of time - or eras as it were.

Charles


#4 kvp

kvp
  • Members
  • LocationBudapest, Hungary

Posted 19 March 2017 - 11:45 AM

Small steamers in N scale were always a challenge to power, so imho nowdays we see more models of these small ones (especially tank locos where a tender drive is not an option) than in the past due to small motors being widely available.
  • marknewton and velotrain like this

#5 Nick_Burman

Nick_Burman
  • Members
  • LocationLate of Sao Paulo - Brazil; now at Spilimbergo, Friuli, Italy

Posted 19 March 2017 - 04:41 PM

Thanks for the links Nick.

I could live with the gaps in the folded side tank etches and the spotty white metal shell, but I've always disliked visible gearing. Many older German steam models had gears that were parallel with the drivers, but I imagine this large perpendicular gear would be particularly distracting to watch.

I may consider more recent (model vs. proto) German engines though.

I'm guessing that models close to what I'm looking for were available in the past, but have fallen out of favor with the passage of time - or eras as it were.

 

Having assembled various Arumo models, by the time you are done with it you won't notice neither the folds (they could be filled with solder if you wish) nor the gear. Especially if you add extra detail to the loco.

 

Arnold withdrew the Hanomag tank loco shortly after the Hornby takeover. I guess the tooling was "kaput".

 

Cheers NB


  • marknewton likes this

Je ne garde pas ma langue dans ma poche...

 

(Marc de Caso, SNCF steam locomotive designer)


#6 Kiha66

Kiha66
  • Members
  • LocationCalifornia

Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:05 PM

Wow, those look like beautiful models!  Where is the best place to get a hold of those kits? 


4107_0.gif4107_1.gif4107_3.gif4107_1.gif4107_6.gif

#7 velotrain

velotrain
  • Members
  • LocationBoston, MA

Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:31 PM

https://www.modeltra...e-arumo-n-scale

Both currently sold out, but I'm sure Nariichi would order them for you.
  • Kiha66 likes this

Charles


#8 velotrain

velotrain
  • Members
  • LocationBoston, MA

Posted 19 March 2017 - 07:14 PM

Nick - would you know how well (or not) those particular motors / drive systems work? Are they prone to jack rabbit starts, or can they easily be run at slow shunting speeds?

Charles


#9 Nick_Burman

Nick_Burman
  • Members
  • LocationLate of Sao Paulo - Brazil; now at Spilimbergo, Friuli, Italy

Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:39 AM

Nick - would you know how well (or not) those particular motors / drive systems work? Are they prone to jack rabbit starts, or can they easily be run at slow shunting speeds?

 

Dunno. However, given the fact that the locos are double-geared I would say they would run OK. Mind you, like all small locomotives, you will have to keep the rails mirror-clean for them to work properly. DCC would also help.

 

I have nothing to do with Arumodel other than having several of their kits and being a fan of their stuff.

 

 

Cheers NB


  • marknewton likes this

Je ne garde pas ma langue dans ma poche...

 

(Marc de Caso, SNCF steam locomotive designer)


#10 velotrain

velotrain
  • Members
  • LocationBoston, MA

Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:32 PM

I have nothing to do with Arumodel other than having several of their kits and being a fan of their stuff.
 
Cheers NB


But have you built (and run) any of the kits that come with their own power chassis?

==>> If not Nick, has anyone here done this?

Charles





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users