Who's got 120'000$? Metrovias sells old Eidan 500 series EMUs!

[Socimi]

 

Just found this picture on the web.

 

Here is the link.

 

http://enelsubte.com/noticias/ponen-a-la-venta-coches-retirados-de-la-linea-b/

[trainsforever8]

lol honestly if I were rich, I would have bought it

[SuRoNeFu 25-501]

Well, if someone could buy the car and repairing it back to the original state (before moved to Buenos Aires), it would be very good 

[trainsforever8]

Perhaps Tokyo Metro should buy it back and make it part of the museum, I don't think Japan has in a museum a train that they sold to another country for its second life, right?

[Socimi]

They do have an Eidan 500 in the Tokyo Subway Museum. But it was there before Tokyo Metro sold the 500s to Metrovias. At leas they should preserve one in running conditions for excursion trips on the Maronouchi line.

[bikkuri bahn]

I'm afraid it's all a fantasy of Tokyo Metro buying any of these.  It would be better for Buenos Aires to preserve an example for whatever museum they have there.

[kvp]

Actually according to the photos, this car was a restaurant, so it's more like a static exhibit, but at least it still has all its wheels.

[Socimi]

At least it does.

 

I wonder if they will preserve also the old Nagoya stock (the 1200, 250 and 5000 series).

Edited March 3, 2016 by DavideTreni

[Kabutoni]

Reviving this topic as it seems that someone, or a some people, have bought a four cars in total and repatriated them to Japan:

 

- https://twitter.com/p1ef65_501/status/755879274398281728

- https://twitter.com/oowave_az/status/755872711360950272

 

That's some dedication.

Edited July 21, 2016 by Kabutoni

[railsquid]

Wow, that's unexpected. I wonder if they got a discount for the graffiti?

[Suica]

I wonder if they got a discount for the graffiti?

I hope so. It looks a lot worse than in the auction photos.

 

I wonder who bought them. One of the photos looks like it was taken in some kind of depot. Any idea what that EMU in the background is?

Edited July 21, 2016 by Suica

[railsquid]

I hope so. It looks a lot worse than in the auction photos.

 

I wonder who bought them. One of the photos looks like it was taken in some kind of depot. Any idea what that EMU in the background is?

 

Eidan/Tokyo Metro 02 series, at the Tokyo Metro Nakano depot (中野検車区). Looks like this is happening at Tokyo Metro's behest: http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2016/07/20/416/

[Suica]

But isn't there already a preserved car in the Tokyo Subway Museum?

[Jcarlton]

Maybe they want a nostalgia train.

[Kabutoni]

I wouldn't be surprised if this train is returned to running condition and used for museum purposes. There is some kind of social movement going on, silently screaming for preserving old rolling stock for operation. I think the jealousy of foreign operators having a heritage fleet is getting the better of some people. Then again, this might not be feasible operationally or financially, though I think the latter won't be a problem.

[Guest keio6000]

I wouldn't be surprised if this train is returned to running condition and used for museum purposes. There is some kind of social movement going on, silently screaming for preserving old rolling stock for operation. I think the jealousy of foreign operators having a heritage fleet is getting the better of some people. Then again, this might not be feasible operationally or financially, though I think the latter won't be a problem.

 

I dont think we praise Fujikyu enough.  A living breathing responsible museum that surely must be run as a labour of love by somebody.

 

i have no idea what "I think the jealousy of foreign operators having a heritage fleet is getting the better of some people" means though.   

[kvp]

Imho the last sentence means that some japanese companies have discovered that museum stock run as a tourist train is more popular than modern sets with a generic tourist theme or obscure local branding. There is a market for running a heritage fleet just for the tourists while having modern trains for the local people.

[Kabutoni]

I dont think we praise Fujikyu enough. A living breathing responsible museum that surely must be run as a labour of love by somebody.

Ooigawa, Ichibata, Izumi, Kominato, Chichibu and others spring to mind.

[Socimi]

But isn't there already a preserved car in the Tokyo Subway Museum?

 

 

Maybe they want a nostalgia train.

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if this train is returned to running condition and used for museum purposes [...]

 

They might want something to run or for some event for the 2027 100th Anniversary of the Tokyo Subway.

Unfortunately they haven't any preserved original 1000 series (besides the one in the museum, wich is by far too precius to be used), so a 500 series comes handy especially if it is in running conditions, they might either make it look like a ginza line 2000 series or they might use it on the maronouchi line. This explains also the preservation of a 3-car set 01 series (besides the one in the museum).

[Densha]

The employees of Tokyo Metro did a great job at getting the train back into such a great shape. They are now going to focus on making it actually running again, after which it is intended to be used for training purposes.

 

[Welshbloke]

On 21/07/2016 at 8:19 PM, Kabutoni said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this train is returned to running condition and used for museum purposes. There is some kind of social movement going on, silently screaming for preserving old rolling stock for operation. I think the jealousy of foreign operators having a heritage fleet is getting the better of some people. Then again, this might not be feasible operationally or financially, though I think the latter won't be a problem.

This is the puzzling part about Japanese preservation efforts. There doesn't seem to be any consideration of keeping a usable (and therefore accurately representative) formation of a given type. Lone KuHas show what it looked like but they can't tell you what it sounded like or what it was like to ride on.

 

Take the 165 Series for example, there are enough surviving cars to assemble a running set (even better if you involve the surviving 169 Series stock and the last KuMoNi 83, you could make a pretty good evocation of the Express Alps sets minus SaHaShi and one SaRo) but they're scattered around the country.

[katoftw]

Economics really.  Preservation costs money.  Preserved examples need to be something that will attract visitors/ridership to make money.  The exampled 165 isn't up there.

 

Not every example of a preserved train is a home run when it comes to attracting visitors/ridership.  But not everything can be preserved in the hope it is popular.

 

There is probably a demographic group/s out there for what companies aim there preserved fleet at.  I'm assuming children, so some 30-40 year old trains just might not get noticed for preservation until it is too late.

[Densha]